installing tweeters

[ahmz]

i have a full system... but i wanna add tweeters to it. how do i do that? i fount these ones with cross overs. but how do i install them?? to the amp? head unit?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Alpine-Tweeters-Tweeter-Speaker-180W-Crossover_W0QQitemZ140193137476QQihZ004QQcategoryZ 14943QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Bradleigh67]

not to a amp!. where abouts are you putting them ? are you just replacing youre old ones with these ?

[Ryan]

not to a amp!. where abouts are you putting them ? are you just replacing youre old ones with these ?
why not. mine are connected to the amp.

[ahmz]

i dnt even kno lol... ima jus put them on the dashboard... shud i take the old ones out then?

[Bradleigh67]

i dnt even kno lol... ima jus put them on the dashboard... shud i take the old ones out then?


personally yeah.. id just replace youre old ones with the new ones.. then its just plug and play... not sure if you will feel a hugh diff in sound quality though ... never done this me self .. av looked into it ..

[Bradleigh67]

why not. mine are connected to the amp.


no Solid reasson really.. when i got my sound system fitted fomr manchester car audio i just asked them about tweeters on a amp.. they said they woudlnt recommend it ..

[ahmz]

it wont fit into that slot??? shud i jus use them wires for it... do i still need crossovers?

[Bradleigh67]

it wont fit into that slot??? shud i jus use them wires for it... do i still need crossovers?


you wont need cross overs if youre just switching youre old ones.. take off the tweeter covers and cut hols in them so you can nice and neatly slot them in .. will look nice.

[mo1315]

Yes you will need crossovers! Crossovers ensure that the tweeter only receives the high frequencies it can produce. Try sending an 80Hhz sub bass frequency through a normal tweeter at 50wrms. It won't last long.

You can wire your tweeters to whatever source of power you wish, whether this be the internal amp from the HU or an external amp. Just ensure that they're not being hugely overpowered. They are just speakers at the end of the day.

What is your full system currently composed of? I really wouldn't recommend a second set of random tweeters up front. They will make the sound artificially bright and harsh. The music will not sound smooth at all.

[Bradleigh67]

Yes you will need crossovers! Crossovers ensure that the tweeter only receives the high frequencies it can produce. Try sending an 80Hhz sub bass frequency through a normal tweeter at 50wrms. It won't last long.

You can wire your tweeters to whatever source of power you wish, whether this be the internal amp from the HU or an external amp. Just ensure that they're not being hugely overpowered. They are just speakers at the end of the day.

What is your full system currently composed of? I really wouldn't recommend a second set of random tweeters up front. They will make the sound artificially bright and harsh. The music will not sound smooth at all.


wow... ok ... so if this is true ... then manchester car audio have seriously screwed me over they said dont connect them to a amp and dont use cross overs

SHockin

[Hoops]

Now - im a complete noobie when it comes to speakers.

My tweeter is giving me crackling, can i just disconnect it ?!

[mo1315]

wow... ok ... so if this is true ... then manchester car audio have seriously screwed me over they said dont connect them to a amp and dont use cross overs

SHockin

Sorry to hear that mate. But think about it. When you buy a set of components they come with a crossover. The signal goes into this and then it gets split into the woofer and tweeter (high frequencies to tweeter, rest to woofer). And all of the car audio guys will recommend amping your components to get the best out of them. So both the tweeter and the woofer are connected to the amp. I have run my tweeters in this way for 4 years now. At the moment my rainbow woofers and tweeters (rated at 50wrms) are connected to a 150wrms amp. And they are running beautifully.

It could be that Manchester Car Audio steered you away from fitting an additional set of tweeters (amplified or not). As mentioned earlier, it would ruin the sound from a well set up component system.

[mo1315]

Now - im a complete noobie when it comes to speakers.

My tweeter is giving me crackling, can i just disconnect it ?!

You can indeed.

Is it aftermarket or a standard one?

If its aftermarket make sure the crossover is connected properly. Tweeters do this when they are receiving the full frequency range and the voice coil has become damaged. Eventually it will stop working.

[Bradleigh67]

Sorry to hear that mate. But think about it. When you buy a set of components they come with a crossover. The signal goes into this and then it gets split into the woofer and tweeter (high frequencies to tweeter, rest to woofer). And all of the car audio guys will recommend amping your components to get the best out of them. So both the tweeter and the woofer are connected to the amp. I have run my tweeters in this way for 4 years now. At the moment my rainbow woofers and tweeters (rated at 50wrms) are connected to a 150wrms amp. And they are running beautifully.

It could be that Manchester Car Audio steered you away from fitting an additional set of tweeters (amplified or not). As mentioned earlier, it would ruin the sound from a well set up component system.


yeah posiblly. was going to go back there to get some components forthe front and have them ampd... where abouts are you based ?

[mo1315]

I live in West London. But my advice is available online wherever you are :)

[Ryan]

no Solid reasson really.. when i got my sound system fitted fomr manchester car audio i just asked them about tweeters on a amp.. they said they woudlnt recommend it ..
you cant say no if you dont know why though! Tweeters connected to an amp are fine, i rum my setup actively, without crossovers, which gives them potential to sound better as you have more control over the whole system.

[mo1315]

you cant say no if you dont know why though! Tweeters connected to an amp are fine, i rum my setup actively, without crossovers, which gives them potential to sound better as you have more control over the whole system.

I assume you use the high pass filter off your amp to filter off the lower frequencies though.

[Ryan]

I assume you use the high pass filter off your amp to filter off the lower frequencies though.
no i give the tweeters 40hz. whats wrong with that?





































:lol:

[Nocky]

I would always fit an Amp to Comps, this is because the Efficiancy of uprated speakers is lower so need more power so genrally sound crap off an Head unit.

Your Standered speakers have a high efficiancy hence why you can always push there limits with a standered H/U..

Suprisingly standered speakers nower days do sound better than more expensive Comps

[jacko103]

I would always fit an Amp to Comps, this is because the Efficiancy of uprated speakers is higher so need more power so genrally sound crap off an Head unit.

Your Standered speakers have a low efficiancy hence why you can always push there limits with a standered H/U..

Suprisingly standered speakers nower days do sound better than more expensive Comps

If you completely flip that upside down then it is true, otherwise that is complete rubbish.

Standard speakers are designed to be very efficient. This allows the very low power signal that a head unit produces to translate into a relatively loud speaker output.

After market speakers are typically much less efficient. This means a low power head unit signal provides a quiet sound output - hence the requirement of a separate amplifier to achieve louder listening levels at a lower THD.

[Nocky]

Hahah Blond moment, im off work ill, i use that as an excuse.

I did know what i was on about tho!:woops: