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Could someone please tell me all the things I need and then what I actually have to do with it.
Is it worth the money? What's so great/bad about it?
I already have a Kaercher pressure washer (probably the cheapest one possible, lol) so I'm guessing I need a foam lance, where should I get one and what should I be paying?
Any help/links would be appreciated
Mike :yes:
www.takeittotheimigrantsdowntheroadandletthemwa*** *itslesshassle.com/yesimcheapiknow
smiffy1989
29-04-2008, 09:42
My cheapo karcher
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http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/washing-amp-drying/foam-lance-karcher-fitting/prod_371.html
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http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/washing-amp-drying/super-snow-foam-5-litre/prod_370.html
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http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/smiffy1989/DSC00243.jpg
Been on about 30 seconds there so its already dripping off. Could get it thicker too but theres no need. Think thats on just under half way on the mixer tap thing.
Its deffo worth the money, my car is almost clean after leaving snow foam on for 5 mins then pressure washing off. Must reduce swirls hell of a lot.
www.takeittotheimigrantsdowntheroadandletthemwa*** *itslesshassle.com/yesimcheapiknow (http://www.takeittotheimigrantsdowntheroadandletthemwa*** *itslesshassle.com/yesimcheapiknow)
Plus they do a terrible job and I'm never happy with it, always end up doing it again.
If Johny 4 gets his car this weekend I thought once we'd pulled all the cars apart in various places and put them back together we could give all three a good clean. :shrug:
My cheapo karcher
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http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/washing-amp-drying/foam-lance-karcher-fitting/prod_371.html
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http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/washing-amp-drying/super-snow-foam-5-litre/prod_370.html
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http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a227/smiffy1989/DSC00243.jpg
Been on about 30 seconds there so its already dripping off. Could get it thicker too but theres no need. Think thats on just under half way on the mixer tap thing.
Its deffo worth the money, my car is almost clean after leaving snow foam on for 5 mins then pressure washing off. Must reduce swirls hell of a lot.
That foam lance is different to the one I saw in Halfrauds?!? Is it a Kaercher one or is it another brand the fits anyway? The one I saw was like £80!
Cheers bud, very helpful :yes:
smiffy1989
29-04-2008, 09:48
The one you saw in halfords is probably the official karcher one. The one i have is the one people on detailing world use.
I think mine will produce more foam than the karcher one.
The one you saw in halfords is probably the official karcher one. The one i have is the one people on detailing world use.
I think mine will produce more foam than the karcher one.
AND it's £35 less! lol. good effort. I'll take a look at my bank bal....... ah f*ck it, I'll just order it :shrug: lol :yes:
AND it's £35 less! lol. good effort. I'll take a look at my bank bal....... ah f*ck it, I'll just order it :shrug: lol :yes:
Mike, get it for saturday then u can snow foam my car! :D
Mike, get it for saturday then u can snow foam my car! :D
Lol, cheeky git, that was the plan anyway, I thought we could do all 3 :yes:
The stuff is awesome....
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Kso0Fn1TWhQ
Really helps to lubricate the pain to prevent swirls when washing. Loads of dirt just drips off you car once its been on there for around 30secs.
Its also great fun to use :lol:
The stuff is awesome....
Really helps to lubricate the pain to prevent swirls when washing. Loads of dirt just drips off you car once its been on there for around 30secs.
Its also great fun to use :lol:
lol, that looks so cool. Looks like you've got the same kit too, good to see how well it works.
So after it's been snow foamed do you just rinse it all off with the normal pressure washer and then clean as per usual?
Yeah, usually you rinse, foam, leave for a min, rinse, foam, wash with mit.
Its not actually my gear, its Kyle'87 's, so if you want more detailed info your best of speaking to him.
All i know is that it helps get the car super shiny :P
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6936/dsc03093ad3.jpg (http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03093ad3.jpg)
:D
Yeah, usually you rinse, foam, leave for a min, rinse, foam, wash with mit.
Its not actually my gear, its Kyle'87 's, so if you want more detailed info your best of speaking to him.
All i know is that it helps get the car super shiny :P
:D
Oh so it's = rinse - foam - rinse - wash - rinse - clay - wash - rinse - dry - polish - wax?
I thought it was just = foam - rinse - wash - rinse - clay - wash - rinse - dry - polish - wax :shrug: lol
I think its best to foam it twice, as the majority of the dirt is removed in the first cycle, you wouldnt want to be rubbing that into your paint
so...
rinse - foam - rinse - foam - wash - rinse - clay - wash - rinse - dry - polish - wax
partridge_88
29-04-2008, 11:10
is there a cheaper foam lance availiable?
£50 seems a lot considering my pressure washer only cost like £70 (cheapo karcher 211 or someting)
how long does a tub of snow foam last?
I think its best to foam it twice, as the majority of the dirt is removed in the first cycle, you wouldnt want to be rubbing that into your paint
I'm guessing you meant isn't.....^
so...
rinse - foam - rinse - foam - wash - rinse - clay - wash - rinse - dry - polish - wax
Lol, cool so it's:
rinse - foam - rinse - foam - rinse - wash - rinse - clay - rinse - wash - rinse - clean windows - polish - wax - tyre shine - clean plastic trims?
4423423414 hours later :| lol
is there a cheaper foam lance availiable?
£50 seems a lot considering my pressure washer only cost like £70 (cheapo karcher 211 or someting)
how long does a tub of snow foam last?
I think that IS the cheap one, a real Kaercher one is £80...!
partridge_88
29-04-2008, 11:14
fookin hell :lol:
partridge_88
29-04-2008, 11:16
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KARCHER-Foam-Lance-Soap-Bottle-BRAND-NEW_W0QQitemZ270232618415QQihZ017QQcategoryZ46536Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
:shrug:
partridge_88
29-04-2008, 11:17
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SearchCmd?text=foam+lance&action=search&storeId=10001&catalogId=10151&langId=-1&x=0&y=0
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KARCHER-Foam-Lance-Soap-Bottle-BRAND-NEW_W0QQitemZ270232618415QQihZ017QQcategoryZ46536Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
:shrug:
:shrug:
No adjusty thingy to regulate the foam/water mix though, could cause problems....
partridge_88
29-04-2008, 11:23
yeah... but been looking on Briskoda, some guy has one of those cheaper bottles and it still does the trick.... depends if you're prepared to spend £50 on the dial one I guess....
I'll get the cheapun, you get the dear-un and we'll compare results.
I'm guessing you meant isn't.....^
Lol, cool so it's:
rinse - foam - rinse - foam - rinse - wash - rinse - clay - rinse - wash - rinse - clean windows - polish - wax - tyre shine - clean plastic trims?
4423423414 hours later :| lol
Nope i meant is. Most dirt comes off in the foam on the first cycle when you rinse if off, so if you didnt rinse if off and just washed it with the foam still on, its gonna rub the dirt into the paint.
So you foam again, then dont rinse it off so helps to lube the paint when you wash mit it.
If that makes sence :lol:
Nope i meant is. Most dirt comes off in the foam on the first cycle when you rinse if off, so if you didnt rinse if off and just washed it with the foam still on, its gonna rub the dirt into the paint.
So you foam again, then dont rinse it off so helps to lube the paint when you wash mit it.
If that makes sence :lol:
ahhh I see, so it's actually = rinse - foam - rinse - foam - washmit etc...
So you don't rinse off the second coating of foam so it helps you give it a good soaping. :yes:
partridge_88
29-04-2008, 11:38
From what I've been reading on the net you can use "normal" shampoo and get a similar effect, if not quite as thick.
smiffy1989
29-04-2008, 11:46
Those karcher things you linked are pretty pooor Joel. Ive got one of them somewhere.
You only put 1 inch of snow foam into the lance bottle then top it up with warm water, so 5L lasts ages! Had my lance a few month and ive barely touched the 5L!
ahhh I see, so it's actually = rinse - foam - rinse - foam - washmit etc...
So you don't rinse off the second coating of foam so it helps you give it a good soaping. :yes:
Spot on :)
smiffy1989
29-04-2008, 11:47
I dont leave the foam on, i foam it twice and rinse it twice then wash using two bucket method.
partridge_88
29-04-2008, 11:48
doesnt that defeat the object as it loosens the dirt?
The whole point it to loosen the dirt, and lubricate the paint ?! :dontknow:
So you wasting it really mate
smiffy1989
29-04-2008, 11:50
doesnt that defeat the object as it loosens the dirt?
It takes off most of the dirt, its a prewash to get rid of as much of the dirt as possible before you do a contact wash. Im sure your not meant to leave it on and wash the car..
It takes off most of the dirt, its a prewash to get rid of as much of the dirt as possible before you do a contact wash. Im sure your not meant to leave it on and wash the car..
You are. It acts as a lubricant.
Thats why you do two cycles, first removes most dirt, second lubes it up for a good washing :P
smiffy1989
29-04-2008, 11:55
hmmm, i have plenty of lube in my two buckets! Dirt still comes off the car with the second foam so surely if you leave it on your rubbing the dirt on the paint? After the second foam has been rinsed off there is very little dirt left on the car.
smiffy1989
29-04-2008, 11:56
Taken from detailingworld:
http://laurenstephens.net/uploads/2dd221056b.pdf
Rinsing off foam from the bottom up allows the foam
to do its work on the dirtier areas of the car rather
than being simply watered down by rinse water from
above!
Doesn't seem to make sense to me, she then goes on to contradict herself by saying
Always wash from the top down with the mitt or
sponge to save dragging grit from dirty lower panels
onto cleaner upper panels. A second mitt for just
lower panels is recommended.
:shrug:
Doesn't seem to make sense to me, she then goes on to contradict herself by saying
:shrug:
She is talking about using the foam gun and then using a mit so it 3 different situations
i dont get all this,
why spend so much time cleaning it? just bang it in the car wash once a month, and then when you come to sell it pay a mate £50 to go over it with a UDM and take all the little imperfections out, thus saving you time and money and asking silly questions like Mikes! :shrug:
:lol:
partridge_88
29-04-2008, 12:18
Because it looks better after a proper wash and wax and the finish lasts longer.
Also, for me, I love the satisfaction of having a dirty car then a few hours later its spanking.
Its a hobby, yes its expensive and some may say pointless, but then again isnt golf?
She is talking about using the foam gun (1) and then using a mit (2) so it 3 (<-- are you sure?) different situations
you make me lol, but I see your point.
Still contradiction aside it still doesn't make sense to me, rinse it off from the bottom up? So I'll rinse the bottom of the door, then rinse the top of the door allowing all the dirt from the top to run over the bottom bit I've just rinsed off, then the roof etc....
It's illogical if you ask me :shrug:
partridge_88
29-04-2008, 12:21
Not listening to the experts ftw!
i dont get all this,
why spend so much time cleaning it? just bang it in the car wash once a month, and then when you come to sell it pay a mate £50 to go over it with a UDM and take all the little imperfections out, thus saving you time and money and asking silly questions like Mikes! :shrug:
:lol:
1) Car wash does a crap job
2) In the long run doing it yourself works out cheaper than keep paying for car washges.
3) I can do a far better job than in pole/kosovan etc...
4) It's better to prevent imperfections/treat them sooner than it is to let them build up.
5) I want my car to look nice now, for me and the people that look at it, I don't just want to have it looking spangly for when someone buys it :shrug:
6) Letting others wash your car they can scratch your paintwork, they can also do stupid things like put bodywork polish on your windscreen thus knackering your wipers :x
I'm sure I could list more but that's enough for now, this isn't the thread to do it in anyway :P
Not listening to the experts ftw!
Do the "experts" make sense to you?
do you see my point?
partridge_88
29-04-2008, 12:28
Yeah, makes no sense, washing the dirt downwards FTW!
smiffy1989
29-04-2008, 12:32
Doesn't seem to make sense to me, she then goes on to contradict herself by saying
:shrug:
The tutorial was written by a male, its just hosted at an address with a females name! ;)
I understand what he's saying but im rubbish at explaining things!
I rinse the foam off from the top so that gravity helps, i dont reckon it makes a difference really as long as it all gets rinsed off.
Some of the stuff they say on detailingworld i would only do if i owned a really smart car.
you make me lol, but I see your point.
Still contradiction aside it still doesn't make sense to me, rinse it off from the bottom up? So I'll rinse the bottom of the door, then rinse the top of the door allowing all the dirt from the top to run over the bottom bit I've just rinsed off, then the roof etc....
It's illogical if you ask me :shrug:
My bad :lol: hit wrong key
Yeah, makes no sense, washing the dirt downwards FTW!
Good, I'm glad it's not just me :lol:
I think I'll take her advice but just ignore the bit about rinsing from the bottom up :yes:
smiffy1989
29-04-2008, 12:45
Good, I'm glad it's not just me :lol:
I think I'll take her advice but just ignore the bit about rinsing from the bottom up :yes:
It was written by a man! lol
It was written by a man! lol
Oh, I just saw "Laurenstephens.net" and made assumptions :woops: lol
smiffy1989
29-04-2008, 12:56
lol, ive just washed the two corsas at my house.
As i said before, the foam takes off most of the dirt before you even start washing with the mitt. If the car has been waxed practically all of the dirt comes off with just the foam!
Its deffo worth buying.
My cheapo karcher
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http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/washing-amp-drying/foam-lance-karcher-fitting/prod_371.html
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http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/washing-amp-drying/super-snow-foam-5-litre/prod_370.html
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Been on about 30 seconds there so its already dripping off. Could get it thicker too but theres no need. Think thats on just under half way on the mixer tap thing.
Its deffo worth the money, my car is almost clean after leaving snow foam on for 5 mins then pressure washing off. Must reduce swirls hell of a lot.
Both items now ordered, due for delivery tomorrow :yes:
smiffy1989
29-04-2008, 13:16
Cool, post up your foamy pics. :)
Best mix i found so far is 1 inch of snow foam in the bottle topped up with warm water.
I normally use an 1" of snow foam and then 1/2" of shampoo and rest filled with warm water and seems to do the job :D
Both items now ordered, due for delivery tomorrow :yes:
Woo means my cars getting cleaned properly on saturday :P
Also whack a bit of poorboys super suds in with the snow form + hot water in the container on the lance and it will help the foam to dwell for longer on the car ;)
http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=66
Cool, post up your foamy pics. :)
Best mix i found so far is 1 inch of snow foam in the bottle topped up with warm water.
Will do, cheers for the tips :)
I normally use an 1" of snow foam and then 1/2" of shampoo and rest filled with warm water and seems to do the job :D
Cheers bud, I'll give it a whirl.
Woo means my cars getting cleaned properly on saturday :P
Lol, yes we'll see what we can do, you'd better get over early to make sure we get everything done :yes:
Also whack a bit of poorboys super suds in with the snow form + hot water in the container on the lance and it will help the foam to dwell for longer on the car ;)
http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=66
Another £12 :| lol
Maybe at a later date, I'll stick to this for a start and buy that stuff later, got to watch my pennies :) Cheers Dan :yes:
smiffy1989
29-04-2008, 17:30
I tried maxi suds in with mine, waste of time IMO. Made no difference whatsoever.
Foamy pic as promised :yes:
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/Stevmic/Photo-0059-1.jpg
Great stuff, great fun to use too :yes:
partridge_88
06-05-2008, 13:48
I bought a cheap bottle off ebay for £10 and it came with some foam, stupid bottle didnt fit my Karcher so going to get a genuine karcher one :angry:
HEre's one of Sollys on my drive too :yes:
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/Stevmic/Photo-0056.jpg
I bought a cheap bottle off ebay for £10 and it came with some foam, stupid bottle didnt fit my Karcher so going to get a genuine karcher one :angry:
Cheaping out FTL :no:
No need for a genuine Kaercher one, look at the one earlier in this thread, it fits and works perfectly, that's what I have.
Hmm doesn't look very consistant foam on those pics? Looks like you need to adjust the air ratio on the lance. I will wack a pic up of mine in a few days.
Mike did you foam the engine bay also?
Hmm doesn't look very consistant foam on those pics? Looks like you need to adjust the air ratio on the lance. I will wack a pic up of mine in a few days.
Mike did you foam the engine bay also?
Tell me what way to twist it bat man and I'll try again :) lol
It's really muddy again after parking in a field on Monday :(
Solly snow foamed his engine bay but I haven't done mine, mine is already pretty clean, I did snow foam the underneath to get rid of oil though :lol:
im looking at getting a jet wash spray and this snow foam
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/7402003/Trail/searchtext%3EKARCHER.htm
is this the jet washer i should by with the add on?
cheers
im looking at getting a jet wash spray and this snow foam
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/7402003/Trail/searchtext%3EKARCHER.htm
is this the jet washer i should by with the add on?
cheers
Can do, I bought one from B&Q (Still Kaercher) for about £40 - £50 though and it does the job nicely :yes:
Karcher pressure washers and foam lances rock my socks!
Can do, I bought one from B&Q (Still Kaercher) for about £40 - £50 though and it does the job nicely :yes:
right cheers
will any Kaercher jet was work with the snow foam add on?
any other places to by the add on from?
Karcher pressure washers and foam lances rock my socks!
Gillen rocks my socks :o
right cheers
will any Kaercher jet was work with the snow foam add on?
any other places to by the add on from?
1) Yes
2) I don't know. :shrug:
Gillen rocks my socks :o
1) Yes
2) I don't know. :shrug:
:love: you Michelle.
Where are you getting the lance from mate, can't be bothered to find the link they gave you!
Also, once you've run out of the solution you get when you buy the lance. Buy a huge 5l bottle of it from Ebay!
:love: you Michelle.
Where are you getting the lance from mate, can't be bothered to find the link they gave you!
Also, once you've run out of the solution you get when you buy the lance. Buy a huge 5l bottle of it from Ebay!
:lol: You lazy gay.
http://www.corsa-c.co.uk/forum/showpost.php?p=2565331&postcount=3
That's the stuff I ordered :yes: works a treat.
I already bought a 5litre bottle of it from there :)
:lol: You lazy gay.
http://www.corsa-c.co.uk/forum/showpost.php?p=2565331&postcount=3
That's the stuff I ordered :yes: works a treat.
I already bought a 5litre bottle of it from there :)
I already have the lance 'n' shizzle, babe. Just wanted to see if it was the same place i ordered mine from :D
Woop for 5l bottles of fish piss?
I already have the lance 'n' shizzle, babe. Just wanted to see if it was the same place i ordered mine from :D
Woop for 5l bottles of fish piss?
Ah I see, lol.
Well that's what I've got.
Above is my car covered in sperm whale sperm :yes:
Apparently my air mix is wrong :shrug:
Is it the same?
Ah I see, lol.
Well that's what I've got.
Above is my car covered in sperm whale sperm :yes:
Apparently my air mix is wrong :shrug:
Is it the same?
Yeah i've got the one off cleanyoucar.com too....
The stuff funking stinks, doesn't it?!
Got a little bit in my mouth on a slightly windy day, i felt so gay. :woops:
Mine looks a little 'thicker' than yours does in the picture above mate!
We are talking about the foam still, right?
Yeah i've got the one off cleanyoucar.com too....
The stuff funking stinks, doesn't it?!
Got a little bit in my mouth on a slightly windy day, i felt so gay. :woops:
Mine looks a little 'thicker' than yours does in the picture above mate!
We are talking about the foam still, right?
:lol: You loved it really.
Yeah I'm going to fiddle about with the mix next time and see if I can get it more even.
:lol: You loved it really.
Yeah I'm going to fiddle about with the mix next time and see if I can get it more even.
I use like a cm of the whale/fish sperm/piss stuff and then a wee drop of Poorboys shampoo. Tis bad ass!
It gets so much of the **** off :thumbs:
I use like a cm of the whale/fish sperm/piss stuff and then a wee drop of Poorboys shampoo. Tis bad ass!
It gets so much of the **** off :thumbs:
I was using like an inch of snow foam as I was told too, maybe I should use less :| lo
babybluemaxer
07-05-2008, 16:05
http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=188
my weapon of choice above. :)
with this as the foam. ;)
http://www.elitecarcare.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=283
i will get you some pictures when i clean her again the weekend, if you want? :doublethumbs:
I was using like an inch of snow foam as I was told too, maybe I should use less :| lo
I hardly use any of the jizz, around 1cm. Then a wee bit of shampoo!
babybluemaxer
07-05-2008, 16:18
i use around about, a drink cap full then same again of shampoo. :)
just got my snow foam.. how much snow foam should i mix with the water in the the tub?
Cerbera00
09-05-2008, 12:09
About an inch (bottom of container) and then a cap full of shampoo (i use autoglym body shampoo) and then cool to warm water (more cool than hot). Shake it a little and your good to go.
I only use approx 1cm of snow foam, then a quick squirt od poorboys shampoo, then full to the top with warm water and a wee shake!
will one full bottle do the whole car?
will one full bottle do the whole car?
I normally use two bottles worth for the whole car :thumbs:
Ah I see, lol.
Well that's what I've got.
Above is my car covered in sperm whale sperm :yes:
Apparently my air mix is wrong :shrug:
Is it the same?
:lol: fingers crossed i will be doing my car sunday and i will whack a pic up. try adding more less air Mike.
can you get these foam lance fings for any pressure washer?
partridge_88
13-05-2008, 11:58
Yeah.
I dunt wanna spend £50 squiddies though lol
I know why it wasn't even before. I never put any bodywork shampoo in the mix :roll:
I done it again the other day and it worked much better :yes:
can you get these foam lance fings for any pressure washer?
Pass :shrug:
halfords have got one of their pressure washers on offer half price, do you think you can get a foam lance thing for them as its quite a good deal :)
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