wax

[matt_hilluk]

as we all know u can get polished that contain fillers to hide swirls. you can also get glazes that hide them too.

what i have been wondering is, are athere any waxes that contain fillers?

[matt_hilluk]

hello

[smiffy1989]

Thats one of the things wax does. All waxes will hide swirls.

[matt_hilluk]

:| mine doesnt, if i put my wax on before polish it looks gash :(

[smiffy1989]

What wax you using?

[smiffy1989]

Grabbed this from cleanyourcar, i use megs nxt wax atm. It fills swirls for sure but its durability is poooor..

Filling Swirl Marks - Recommended for working by hand
One method of getting rid of swirl marks is to basically fill up the mark with a filler (a bit like anti-wrinkle cream!!) so that there's no longer a hole and sharp edges to catch the light. This method I prefer for working by hand as it does not require massive effort to break a product down (see machine polishing later), and by hand this method achieves better results.

Below is a diagram showing a swirl mark that has been filled with filler:

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8767/filledswirl7lw.jpg

This can be achieved by using products such as paint cleansers, some glazes and even some sealents contain fillers. When applying a paintwork cleanser, work the product well into the paint to fill the swirl and be prepared for a prepeat application if more filler is required. Some products which contain fillers, there are many others:

Meguiars NXT Tech Wax
Autoglym Super Resin Polish
Clearkote Red Moose Machine Glaze

If maskig swirls by hand using this filling technique, a generic recommendation I would go for would be:

1. Paintwork Chemical Cleanser - work this well into the paint with medium pressure and remove from surface immediately - working on small areas at a time (2' by 2' roughly). Repeat application if necessary. Example products to use here are: Meguiars Deep Crystal Paint Cleaner; P21S Gloss Enhancing Paintwork Cleanser; Pinnacle Painwork Cleansing Lotion. These cleaners also help remove oxidisation from the paintwork too.


2. Glaze and Seal - can be done in one step or too, glazes will deepen and wetten the shine and most will further fill and hide the swirl marks. Sealents protect the shine and seal in the fillers, as they can be washed away very easily. For light colours I find Clearkote Vanilla Moose Wax Hand Glaze works very well, followed by Poorboys EX-P sealent. Apply the Clearcoat in circular motions first with medium pressure then finish in a fore and aft motion. Work on small areas at a time and remove residue straight away. For the Poorboys EX-P apply to paint and leave for an hour to cure and then remove. For dark colours I prefer the single step of Meguiars NXT Tech Wax which is a glaze/sealent combined - apply to whole car, leave for an hour to cure and then remove. Repeat this step 24hrs later for additional coverage which helps to ensure even coverage.

3. Optionally, top this off with a pure wax to give the icing on the cake, and you choices of wax are endless but a good starting point for light colours would be Poorboys Nattys, and for darks Poorboys Nattys Blue - apply to one panel and remove immediately as if left too long to dry, it can be a bit of a pest to remove.

While filling the swirls works in the short term, there is the disadvantage of what happens when the fillers fade and leave the original swirl marks as shown:

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/5259/swirlloosingfill3tq.jpg

The swirl mark starts to come back which will then require filling again in order to hide it and this process goes on and on. By hand, this is the most effective way to hide swirls, but you can do better by machine....

[matt_hilluk]

Nxt Tech Wax Here I Come

[smiffy1989]

NXT makes it look awesome, but only for a day or two :\

[Scrounger]

Get Autoglym High definition wax.

Awesome finish

[Pvt Killer]

Either the AG High definition Wax or the Chemical Guys XXX Hardcore wax... both well worth the money, the CG one is much cheaper and gives great results!

[matt_hilluk]

might try the CG then as i love the CG products

[Pvt Killer]

Smells amazing too! :P

[matt_hilluk]

they all do :love: