View Full Version : Splitting facelift lights
chris_trickle
27-10-2006, 21:08
Hi,
Im after some (if any!) information about how to split facelift headlights. Im going to be doing it over the next couple of weeks so i can paint them, but i just want to now if theres anything i should be looking out for. Are they easy enough to pull apart? Do you need to use a heat gun at all?
Any info would be greatly appreciated, i know its not a common mod cos its a tricky one, but its worth a shot!
Cheers :thumbs:
derbyboyred
27-10-2006, 23:00
sicky?? if that is / was his username had a set of smoked headlights i am not sure if he still uses this site but i am sure someone will still be in touch with him
chris_trickle
27-10-2006, 23:39
good point, i will try PMing him. I aint seen him around for a while though!
derbyboyred
27-10-2006, 23:40
no me neither, hope you get them done in time for the east midlands meet as i would like to see what they look like, smoked facelifts
chris_trickle
27-10-2006, 23:43
yeah i should hope so as well! I want to get them done over the next couple of weeks, so fingers crossed!
Glenn thats organising the meeting has got smoked facelifts, i havent looked at them properly before but from what i remember they look pretty sweet
derbyboyred
27-10-2006, 23:49
yeah i thought they looked smoked from the picture how did he do it??
chris_trickle
27-10-2006, 23:53
yeah i thought they looked smoked from the picture how did he do it??
He did it himself, he's tight lipped about it though! :shrug:
Martin_C
27-10-2006, 23:56
it was me that did sicky's lights :lol:
chris_trickle
27-10-2006, 23:58
it was me that did sicky's lights :lol:
:lol: I have just wasted a PM on him then! Can you shed any light then on things i need to look out for?? Owt thats arkward?
combatprojex
28-10-2006, 10:34
chris i dont mind telling you as long as you keep as tight lipped about it as i have been lol... im hoping to make a bit of money selling them so dont want every one knowing lol, yeh it is a proper bitch to do too. will send you a pm soon...
chris_trickle
28-10-2006, 12:03
chris i dont mind telling you as long as you keep as tight lipped about it as i have been lol... im hoping to make a bit of money selling them so dont want every one knowing lol, yeh it is a proper bitch to do too. will send you a pm soon...
Cheers dude, i will keep it tight lipped dont worry mate :thumbs:
combatprojex
28-10-2006, 12:47
PM'd ;)
chris_trickle
28-10-2006, 14:46
PM'd ;)
Legend :doublethumbs:
combatprojex
28-10-2006, 14:54
:D all part of the service... gotta look after my east mids buddies lol
chris_trickle
23-11-2006, 22:02
Well i finally got round to doing this mod, me and one of my mates have spent the last two days doing it! Its been a b@stard of a job but we have done it, fingers crossed they dont steam up!
I will get pics up this weekend once i have got them on the car and cleaned her up, she looks like a right slag at the moment!
samisnake
25-11-2006, 20:25
wheres the pics dude. i neeeeeed pics
Reviving an old thread; would like to know myself! :P
Reviving an old thread; would like to know myself! :P
Agreed ;)
If I don't find out through being informed, i'll be taking a facelift headlight i'm in possession of with a scuffed lense... taking it apart... smoking it... and sharing the information on how :)
All in the means of research.
I know one person won't be happy about that lol :P
combatprojex
17-06-2007, 17:43
not that fussed mate, i know that not everyone will manage to do it as tidy as i can ;)
What's difficult about this, I've split around 30 sets of headlights and they are really easy, hardest one was splitting a set of MK4 genuine Xenon headlights as they cost £275 each and if I ruined them I was going to be mad but I've split 2 pairs of these now and it's not that hard.
Looking for a set of facelift headlights right now to split, going to colour code the backing lens to match my daughters Sapphire Black, I'll then fit a set of 6K HIDs in them, fit them and then split her old ones and flog em on E-Bay.
Even done a couple of sets of red colour coded ones, look nice when fitted.
samisnake
22-06-2007, 02:33
What's difficult about this, I've split around 30 sets of headlights and they are really easy, hardest one was splitting a set of MK4 genuine Xenon headlights as they cost £275 each and if I ruined them I was going to be mad but I've split 2 pairs of these now and it's not that hard.
Looking for a set of facelift headlights right now to split, going to colour code the backing lens to match my daughters Sapphire Black, I'll then fit a set of 6K HIDs in them, fit them and then split her old ones and flog em on E-Bay.
Even done a couple of sets of red colour coded ones, look nice when fitted.
howd you do it, and you got pics of the red ones?
No sorry I don't think I took any pics of the red ones, after a while you don't bother with pics as they are common place for you so you don't think they are out of the ordinary.
As for how to split them, you put them in an oven, the bonding glue melts and the lens can then be removed. It can be very messy as the bonding glue is black and it can melt like cheese so it can get everywhere. Plus as soon as it gets cool it starts to solidify so you need to work fast or you'll snap the lens catches as it starts to hold again.
Fairly easy to do once you've done one set. You just need nerves of steel the first time as you'd swear the headlight will melt in the oven :)
No sorry I don't think I took any pics of the red ones, after a while you don't bother with pics as they are common place for you so you don't think they are out of the ordinary.
As for how to split them, you put them in an oven, the bonding glue melts and the lens can then be removed. It can be very messy as the bonding glue is black and it can melt like cheese so it can get everywhere. Plus as soon as it gets cool it starts to solidify so you need to work fast or you'll snap the lens catches as it starts to hold again.
Fairly easy to do once you've done one set. You just need nerves of steel the first time as you'd swear the headlight will melt in the oven :)
Any chance you fancy writing up a tutorial for us all please, with picture ect, when you do your daughters ones?! Thanks ;)
Yeah not a problem. I understand that this is treading on the toes on Combatprojex but it's not exactly a secret how to do this, I've known this for years, However not everyone will be competent enough (or brave enough) to do the mod and he will still get business from those who aren't.
Plus the more it becomes a must have mod the more demand there will be for this mod so his business should increase not decrease. If I was him I'd wait until asked for a colour before spraying them, so he could do red ones for red cars etc, not everyone wants black even though it does look nice. Tha's just my thoughts on the matter I don't for a minute think to give him instructions, just advice.
samisnake
22-06-2007, 14:29
Yeah not a problem. I understand that this is treading on the toes on Combatprojex but it's not exactly a secret how to do this, I've known this for years, However not everyone will be competent enough (or brave enough) to do the mod and he will still get business from those who aren't.
Plus the more it becomes a must have mod the more demand there will be for this mod so his business should increase not decrease. If I was him I'd wait until asked for a colour before spraying them, so he could do red ones for red cars etc, not everyone wants black even though it does look nice. Tha's just my thoughts on the matter I don't for a minute think to give him instructions, just advice.
itd be great if you could do the tutorial. it aint treading on anyones toes, as it isnt copyrighted or anything. dont understand why anyone else hasnt made a tutorial yet. its just another mod like any, should be more than one person doing it as it creates a monopoly otherwise
He has been on about doing colour codes for people but no one's been brave enough to do it yet.
I don't know about others but I'd rather pay the money and get Glenn to do it as I know he'll do a top job. Also if he messes them up he's a top bloke so I'm sure he'd replace them for you wheras if you balls it up yourself then you're f*cked. Also when you consider the time involved and the cost of the paint I'd say his price was aa fair one.
f people want to take the risk in doing it themselves then that's fair enough :)
Mate if you would do the tutorial it would be great!
itd be great if you could do the tutorial. it aint treading on anyones toes, as it isnt copyrighted or anything. dont understand why anyone else hasnt made a tutorial yet. its just another mod like any, should be more than one person doing it as it creates a monopoly otherwise
Exactly! :D
samisnake
22-06-2007, 14:36
He has been on about doing colour codes for people but no one's been bracve enough to do it yet.
I don't know about others but I'd rather pay the money and get Glenn to do it as I know he'll do a top job. Also if he messes them up he's a top bloke so I'm sure he'd replace them for you wheras if you balls it up yourself then you're f*cked. Also when you consider the time involved and the cost of the paint I'd say his price was aa fair one.
yeh but theres obviously more than one person able to do it. theres only one person doing the lights, just how theres one person selling the led switches. thing is theres other ppl who can do them to, so ppl who cant do it themselves can choose whether to buy them ready made or attempt it themselves. i bought some ready made about a year ago, then they broke, so i did my own ones. it was easy and i tell people how to do them if they ask in the modifications section. by only having one person doing them, with no advice on how to do them, it creates a monopoly as ppl think they cant do it themselves and HAVE to go to combatprojex if they want those lights.
He has been on about doing colour codes for people but no one's been brave enough to do it yet.
I don't know about others but I'd rather pay the money and get Glenn to do it as I know he'll do a top job. Also if he messes them up he's a top bloke so I'm sure he'd replace them for you wheras if you balls it up yourself then you're f*cked. Also when you consider the time involved and the cost of the paint I'd say his price was aa fair one.
f people want to take the risk in doing it themselves then that's fair enough :)
I agree with all that, if you don't feel competent enough to have a crack yourself then please pay someone who is, it's no good thinking you can do this and end up with lights you have ruined, saying that there is nothing in the mod which I'd say 60% of the members couldn't do themselves. The other 40% can pay someone else to do them.
I do LOADS of mod, the vast majority of them are mods I've seen done and asked how it was done, I've then attempted the mod myself, I'm lucky that I'm very good with my hands but more importantly I'm very good with my brain, I've improved on almost all the mods to some extent, however the biggest thing and the most important one is LOOK before you attempt, study what your trying to do. It's no good taking the light out of the oven and then looking to see where all the catches are, find them first, study how they work, when your working with a red hot light and even hotter glue you don't want to waste time working things out.
The monoploy situation is also valid, if only one member knows the secret then supply is extremely limited, I do LED conversions, I'm not bigheaded when I say that they are amongst the best out there, if not the best, however even if you took one of my mods apart you would be very very lucky to copy it, it has taken me hundreds of hours and hundreds of pounds to get the materials I use to creat my mods, you could copy them if you could find everything I use but it would take you as long as it took me. Plus I don't charge over the odds, I spend 3 days converting an Astra G headlight switch, it had 17 LEDs in it and I charged £25 for doing that, at least 12 hours went into that, £2 a hour, that's not even minimum wage :) but I do them because I like to do them, (well not the headlight switch, it's a bitch to do :) ) the more people who can do this mod the better it becomes, someone could stumble onto a trick no ones even considered, I thought I'd install a halo ring in my daughters just to see if I could, easy when your good with LEDs, something like that.
samisnake
22-06-2007, 15:27
i look forward to the tutorial oddjob
i look forward to the tutorial oddjob
Indeed ;)
You may need to wait a while until I obtain a set of facelift headlights, unless someone wants to donate a set :)
Sri ryan
22-06-2007, 18:56
You may need to wait a while until I obtain a set of facelift headlights, unless someone wants to donate a set :)
uve got a pm ;)
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