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charlton_68
11-09-2007, 11:59
When amping my components to an external amp, what happens to the existing wire from the Headunit amp? Just left to dangle there?
cheers
smiffy1989
11-09-2007, 12:00
just put some insulation tape on it and leave it dangling.
might be better to tape it up to something as it might vibrate and make ghey noises.
charlton_68
11-09-2007, 12:05
thought so, cheers.
been looking at how to feed the wire through the door, how the fuk do you do it??? lol
smiffy1989
11-09-2007, 12:06
lol, do you not remember your last thread?
you were the one that was meant to be figuring it out and telling me! lol
this looks soo confusing but bet it will sound good ;)
Mr. Spud
11-09-2007, 12:25
i jus finsihed amping my comps....well worth the hassel!!!
smiffy1989
11-09-2007, 12:31
i jus finsihed amping my comps....well worth the hassel!!!
how did you run the wires into the door? or did you use standard wiring? cheers :)
charlton_68
11-09-2007, 12:32
how did you run the wires into the door? or did you use standard wiring? cheers :)
yer how did you run wire into the door??
Theres noway you can use standard wiring as some has to go from the crossover to the amp (in the boot)
Mr. Spud
11-09-2007, 12:38
how did you run the wires into the door? or did you use standard wiring? cheers :)
it was simple really....
i took the glove box out,took the rubber thing in the door henge and then squeezed the wires through and insulated it.
smiffy1989
11-09-2007, 12:40
so they are on the outside of the rubber tube then?
charlton_68
11-09-2007, 12:40
it was simple really....
i took the glove box out,took the rubber thing in the door henge and then squeezed the wires through and insulated it.
how you get it into the door tho?? theres no way you can squeeze it through :(
Mr. Spud
11-09-2007, 12:41
so they are on the outside of the rubber tube then?
yep...jus sealed it up and u cant even notcie it and never catches.
smiffy1989
11-09-2007, 12:43
could you get a picture of it please mate, i dont get how you got it into the door. did you cut some of the door away around the plug?
Mr. Spud
11-09-2007, 12:48
how you get it into the door tho?? theres no way you can squeeze it through :(
i made a little cut at the bottom of tweeter cover to feed the wire in to the door card into the tweeter.
Mr. Spud
11-09-2007, 12:49
ill take pics when i get home 2nite...pm me to remind me
smiffy1989
11-09-2007, 12:49
cheers :)
charlton_68
11-09-2007, 12:52
i made a little cut at the bottom of tweeter cover to feed the wire in to the door card into the tweeter.
ah ha
*goes to look*
charlton_68
11-09-2007, 13:16
im in :heelclick:
only thing, what to i do with the rubber seal, as half of it is current lifted up??
smiffy1989
11-09-2007, 13:18
i dont understand this at all lol. take a picture lol
flinn_c+
11-09-2007, 13:20
if i was guna amp up my components id use the existing wires that already go into the doors, it would make it a much simpler job
Mr. Spud
11-09-2007, 13:22
if i was guna amp up my components id use the existing wires that already go into the doors, it would make it a much simpler job
u cant use the existing wires.because the wires from the hu are no longer needed and the signal will be now coming from the amp.
in that case all wiring will need to be changed in order to do it properly
charlton_68
11-09-2007, 13:23
if i was guna amp up my components id use the existing wires that already go into the doors, it would make it a much simpler job
you need a extra wire tho mate, the wire that goes to the crossover from the amp.
charlton_68
11-09-2007, 13:24
i dont understand this at all lol. take a picture lol
ive taken pics :)
will upload when ive finsihed working, im in and out of the house refreshing this thread :lol:
Mr. Spud
11-09-2007, 13:26
:lol:...if i had my car at work i would have taken pics for u guys....
but im not:lol:
i will do bout 8pm if u can wait or i can go into more detail if u want?
charlton_68
11-09-2007, 14:08
:lol:...if i had my car at work i would have taken pics for u guys....
but im not:lol:
i will do bout 8pm if u can wait or i can go into more detail if u want?
what did you use to re-seal the rubber seal mate?
Ben_skyrme
11-09-2007, 16:26
look at this thread, i did it a while back and think ammt2 done it the same > http://www.corsa-c.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=94750&page=3:thumbs:
smiffy1989
11-09-2007, 16:33
look at this thread, i did it a while back and think ammt2 done it the same > http://www.corsa-c.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=94750&page=3:thumbs:
thats great, where did you get that plastic shielding stuff from tho?
Ben_skyrme
11-09-2007, 16:34
thats great, where did you get that plastic shielding stuff from tho?
plastic sheilding?
charlton_68
11-09-2007, 16:35
plastic sheilding?
conduit stuff. I went to B&Q and couldnt find any :(
Ben_skyrme
11-09-2007, 16:38
ahh, i got it in my wiring kit, but i think you can probably get it off the bay or most diy shops.
something like this would work > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/7mm-ID-CONVOLUTED-CONDUIT-WIRE-CABLE-TIDY-10-METRES_W0QQitemZ290137699711QQihZ019QQcategoryZ722 05QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotoh osting
look on here > http://motors.search.ebay.co.uk/conduit_Cars-Parts-Vehicles_W0QQ_trksidZm37QQcatrefZC12QQfromZR40QQfs prZ0QQsacatZ9800
it will depend on how thick your wire is to which one you will need as tyhey have different diameters:thumbs:
charlton_68
11-09-2007, 16:56
cheers for the link. what mm is 16awg speaker cable??
SONiC_86
11-09-2007, 17:01
cheers for the link. what mm is 16awg speaker cable??
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/awg-wire-gauge-d_731.html
Mr. Spud
11-09-2007, 17:02
look at this thread, i did it a while back and think ammt2 done it the same > http://www.corsa-c.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=94750&page=3:thumbs:
yeah pretty much the same
.......but easier :lol:
Ben_skyrme
11-09-2007, 17:18
yeah pretty much the same
.......but easier :lol:
Lol i thought you were going to do it properly through the loom?!
Apparently you can run the cable through the black rubber pipe, ill rip mine apart an look, if it works ill do a tut for you all should be in the next few weeks
jacko237
11-09-2007, 17:55
thought so, cheers.
been looking at how to feed the wire through the door, how the fuk do you do it??? lol
drill the spare holes in the multiplug
flinn_c+
11-09-2007, 18:19
no u could still use the wires that go through into ur door just join the wires from ur amp to the ones that go from the back of the hu!
jacko237
11-09-2007, 18:24
no u could still use the wires that go through into ur door just join the wires from ur amp to the ones that go from the back of the hu!
yeah but then it goes thick wire thin wire thick wire gota affect performance slightly
jacko103
11-09-2007, 18:51
yeah but then it goes thick wire thin wire thick wire gota affect performance slightly
Not much, if at all (as long as the connections made are good). The biggest sources of distortion in an audio system are the speakers by a very long way.
Mr. Spud
11-09-2007, 18:53
Lol i thought you were going to do it properly through the loom?!
i did....but wit 1 very hand short cut.ill post pics when i get home
charlton_68
12-09-2007, 00:45
drill the spare holes in the multiplug
no chance lol :lol:
charlton_68
12-09-2007, 00:49
no u could still use the wires that go through into ur door just join the wires from ur amp to the ones that go from the back of the hu!
never thought of that lol
how come noone else does that??
flinn_c+
12-09-2007, 00:53
coz they are silly lol
charlton_68
12-09-2007, 01:08
coz they are silly lol
must be a good reason tho, as people like Coops etc have fed new wire into the doors, and they know what their doing lol
Ive pretty much sorted it now anyways, so might aswell finish the job off :D
Mr. Spud
12-09-2007, 01:30
never thought of that lol
how come noone else does that??
becasue thats not how u amp comps....u need new wires from the amp feeding into the cross overs
charlton_68
12-09-2007, 01:55
no u could still use the wires that go through into ur door just join the wires from ur amp to the ones that go from the back of the hu!
becasue thats not how u amp comps....u need new wires from the amp feeding into the cross overs
seems to make sense to me :dontknow:
Although im feeding new wire through. Where are these pics you said you'd upload anyways mate?
Mr. Spud
12-09-2007, 01:59
seems to make sense to me :dontknow:
Although im feeding new wire through. Where are these pics you said you'd upload anyways mate?
the wires at the back of the hu no longer have anything to do with the comps thats why u run the new rca from the hu to the amp then to amp to the cross overs and cross overs to the comps....
ill go get them now :) u best wait coz im goin out to get pics :lol:
charlton_68
12-09-2007, 02:03
the wires at the back of the hu no longer have anything to do with the comps thats why u run the new rca from the hu to the amp then to amp to the cross overs and cross overs to the comps....
ill go get them now :) u best wait coz im goin out to get pics :lol:
yer bt if you sourced where they go to the headunit, you could remove them and connect additional speaker wire to them and relocate the wire so it runs down the sides, that way it would have nothing to do with the hu it would just be wire - but already through the door for ya :D Im not doing that anyways, its just a possibility.
Cheers for getting the pics, im waiting :) (not to long tho, need sleep soon lol)
Mr. Spud
12-09-2007, 02:08
yer bt if you sourced where they go to the headunit, you could remove them and connect additional speaker wire to them and relocate the wire so it runs down the sides, that way it would have nothing to do with the hu it would just be wire - but already through the door for ya :D Im not doing that anyways, its just a possibility.
Cheers for getting the pics, im waiting :) (not to long tho, need sleep soon lol)
no because the wires from the HU are wired in the standard crossovers in the tweeter which is why it wont work coz u need to wire them to a different cross over
charlton_68
12-09-2007, 02:09
no because the wires from the HU are wired in the standard crossovers in the tweeter which is why it wont work coz u need to wire them to a different cross over
ahh whatever :lol: Im doing it the proper way anyways :D
You nearly done with the piccies??
Mr. Spud
12-09-2007, 02:10
i still havent finished sealling them proper. with the wire u jus cable tie it to the rubber thing but even loose it doesnt catch at all but i jus aint got round to doin it yet....
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t242/ammt2/DSC00031-1.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t242/ammt2/DSC00030-1.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t242/ammt2/DSC00029.jpg
charlton_68
12-09-2007, 02:16
good pics :thumbs: So where you've fed the wire from the car (2nd pic) youve just pushed the rubber to the side abit? Cos im going to pearce a hole in the rubber with a screwdriver and feed the wire through that way.
Also have you used sealent?
Mr. Spud
12-09-2007, 02:18
good pics :thumbs: So where you've fed the wire from the car (2nd pic) youve just pushed the rubber to the side abit? Cos im going to pearce a hole in the rubber with a screwdriver and feed the wire through that way.
Also have you used sealent?
i haven't used sealent yet..wen i got time i will.
well basically i took out the glove box and ppulled out the rubber tubing and then squeezed the wire through,its a tight fit but good to seal
charlton_68
12-09-2007, 02:20
i haven't used sealent yet..wen i got time i will.
well basically i took out the glove box and ppulled out the rubber tubing and then squeezed the wire through,its a tight fit but good to seal
the rubber seal wont be sitting flush at the moment tho will it? Do you plan on just wacking loads of sealent round the gap created by the wire?
Another thing, is it actually worth it!!! :lol:
Mr. Spud
12-09-2007, 02:23
the rubber seal wont be sitting flush at the moment tho will it? Do you plan on just wacking loads of sealent round the gap created by the wire?
Another thing, is it actually worth it!!! :lol:
yeah im jus gonna throw on some sealent...
the hassel is diff worth it...my comps are sounding fcuking wicked and u'll be happy wit the out come when finished.i promise u
charlton_68
12-09-2007, 02:24
yeah im jus gonna throw on some sealent...
the hassel is diff worth it...my comps are sounding fcuking wicked and u'll be happy wit the out come when finished.i promise u
cant wait to get it finished, hopefully by the end of the week :D
Ive taken loads of pics so will make a thread when done :thumbs:
Mr. Spud
12-09-2007, 02:25
cant wait to get it finished, hopefully by the end of the week :D
Ive taken loads of pics so will make a thread when done :thumbs:
good luck wit it mate.im off to bed now! :bye:
charlton_68
12-09-2007, 02:29
good luck wit it mate.im off to bed now! :bye:
cheers for your help mate. me too :sleep:
The reason that you dont connect it to the standard wiring is because its crappy thin wire. What would be the point of running good quality cable then connecting it to a really thin piece of crap ?
Ammt2 it is possible to do it that way, its just not a very good idea :lol:
jacko103
12-09-2007, 09:43
yer bt if you sourced where they go to the headunit, you could remove them and connect additional speaker wire to them and relocate the wire so it runs down the sides, that way it would have nothing to do with the hu it would just be wire - but already through the door for ya :D Im not doing that anyways, its just a possibility.
Cheers for getting the pics, im waiting :) (not to long tho, need sleep soon lol)
It's perfectly possibly to do this. It works and with the level of kit most people put in on this forum, it would be sufficient. However for setups like mine, Coops, Martin and the quality ones, the standard wire is a bit thin.
flinn_c+
12-09-2007, 12:00
how about just joining the amp wire to the connectors that go thru the door, so take off the wires that go from the hu to the black door connector bit n wire the amp to and from the door bit so no extra wires go from inside to the door? could even replace the bit of wire inside the bridge bit to some higher quality stuff so u save on the quality and get a much much better finish!
partridge_88
12-09-2007, 12:03
LOL @ Going to all that hassle for a JBL and Infinity setup.
I used the standard wire just wired it up behind the headunit using choccy blocks and it sounded mint went to high volumes and never burnt out/went on fire/got abducted by aliens.
Fair enough if your using JL audio etc but fook it for sub £100 budget gear.
Ben_skyrme
12-09-2007, 17:25
just do it like i did it in this post (clicky me!) (http://www.corsa-c.co.uk/forum/showt...t=94750&page=3).
plus when your getting in the car is the only time you can see the black conduit and it doesnt look messy.
mine is now all tied down and i dont even notice it. and when the doors are shut (i.e. 99% of the time) you can't see the wire anyway.
here are new pics of the wire, nobody can argue that it looks messy because it simply doesnt;
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z100/Ben_skyrme/12092007055.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z100/Ben_skyrme/12092007056.jpg
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z100/Ben_skyrme/12092007057.jpg
samisnake
12-09-2007, 17:56
i wouldnt say thats entirely neat as youve cut into the tweeter cover to put the wire through which can be seen
And surely it gets trapped in the door seal everytime you close the door ?
Ben_skyrme
12-09-2007, 18:03
i wouldnt say thats entirely neat as youve cut into the tweeter cover to put the wire through which can be seen
the cut where wire goes in is very very neat up close and the only time you can see that area of the door is if you sit in the position where the photo was taken and purposely look at the tweeter cover when the door is open, which ive got to say ive done zero times in my life.
And surely it gets trapped in the door seal everytime you close the door ?
the conduit doesnt look like it has been trapped as when i have looked at it there are no marks on it at all.
charlton_68
13-09-2007, 00:13
LOL @ Going to all that hassle for a JBL and Infinity setup.
I used the standard wire just wired it up behind the headunit using choccy blocks and it sounded mint went to high volumes and never burnt out/went on fire/got abducted by aliens.
Fair enough if your using JL audio etc but fook it for sub £100 budget gear.
I thought I needed new wire into the door, but seems I could have managed with the standard wire :\
Oh well its done now, just gotta connect everything up and hopefully it will work :D
SONiC_86
13-09-2007, 00:46
never thought of that lol
how come noone else does that??
:o Thats what i said to do in the pm :slap:
charlton_68
13-09-2007, 09:54
:o Thats what i said to do in the pm :slap:
:lol:
Oh well, its done now and I have decent wire in :heelclick:
SONiC_86
13-09-2007, 11:59
:lol:
Oh well, its done now and I have decent wire in :heelclick:
I'll let you off then :P
Did you take any pics of it mate ?
And how does it sound ?
charlton_68
13-09-2007, 17:24
took loads of pics coops. And for budget gear it sounds awesome!
Im gonna make a big thread with it all done tomoro cos im at work at the moment on my nokia n95! Lol
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